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September 14, 2011 at 1:00PM • 1 hour 59 minutes
John Gruber and Dan Benjamin discuss John's plan for Microsoft, Windows 8, Metro, touch on the desktop, keeping legacy environments around, Windows everywhere vs. iOS everywhere, and the death of Star Wars.
April 8, 2011 at 3:00PM • 1 hour 24 minutes
John Siracusa and Dan Benjamin discuss some upcoming Pixar projects, Facebook's open datacenter initiative, Star Wars, and, finally, Apple’s philosophy and practice of UI consistency over the years.
December 1, 2010 at 2:43PM • 1 hour 21 minutes
John Gruber and Dan Benjamin briefly dissect the masculinity of smartphones before a tribute to Irvin Kershner leads to a runaway discussion of Star Wars, Indiana Jones, the best Bond, Star Trek and underwater cars.
August 18, 2010 at 6:00AM • 1 hour 27 minutes
John Gruber and Dan Benjamin talk about the golden days of the arcade, Star Wars, the deleted "Return of the Jedi" opening scene, and address Apple TV (iTV?) rumors and the future of iOS.